Curse

Akimb0 · Jul 27, 2005, 09:58 AM // 09:58

Look at the state your in, I say you've been pwned by t3h 1337 sp34k. ( tbh )

Sekkira · Jul 27, 2005, 09:59 AM // 09:59

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Originally Posted by BrokenSymmetry

Who is to say that this won't evolve further into a generally-accepted "u" ?

I'll just say, if that day comes within my lifetime, who is going to join me in eradicating the human race?

Eet GnomeSmasher · Jul 27, 2005, 10:16 AM // 10:16

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Originally Posted by Numa Pompilius

I thought that was MMS-speak not leet-speek? Leet-speek in the old days was more "l1K3 d1$".

Well, the title of this thread and the OP was talking about "netspeak" so that's what I included in my post.

I don't mind SOME netspeak... "brb" and "afk" and others are fine with me...but wholesale butchery of the language with the "u" and "ur" is what irritates me. And for some reason, to me, it takes out the soul and personality of what's being said. Yeah...I'm nuts.

But yeah, I do admit to saying "noob" and "uber" just for laughs because sometimes it's just fun to say stupid words.

GW Insomniac · Jul 27, 2005, 10:25 AM // 10:25

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Originally Posted by Numa Pompilius

PS: On the subject of pet peeves: 'ignots'.

'ne1' does the same for me.
I can't fully understand some people's need to abbreviate every word into it's (near) phonetic equivalent - doesn't the chatbox contain the full gamut of languages already without having to resort to 'killing' the english language too?

Maagus · Jul 27, 2005, 10:30 AM // 10:30

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Originally Posted by Creature of Legend

The only porblem with this is space. It's kinda hard to post alot for sale using "Want to sell." Of course this all depends on the items, a full list of runes is a pain to fit on one line much less adding commas or spaces. WTS and WTB can help clearing the chat channel instead of cramming it up. Grant it not every one has a list of things but a standard for buying and selling is so much easier.

There is a slight misunderstanding :-) I dont mind using some abbreviations (WTS, rdy, etc.) I sometimes use them too. By spamming WTS in local channel, I mean selling or buying something in local channel instead of using trade channel. Recently i went to Ascalon and there is almost nothing in local channel but WTS/WTB spammers. If someone writes that he wants help, its almost unreadable because of those spammers.

Lasareth · Jul 27, 2005, 10:33 AM // 10:33

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Originally Posted by Sekkira

I'll just say, if that day comes within my lifetime, who is going to join me in eradicating the human race?

I say we start now.

I'm a bit of a heckler when it comes to speech, honestly. To expand on my earlier post, I only use stupid talk with people I feel comfortable with or when I want to lighten a situation.

Really, though, the worst thing that I see isn't a u ur or n00b (although all equally irritate me). It'd have to be the glaring romance the citizens of the internet have with the misuse of the two forms of "your." I don't see how hard it is to understand... your book, not you are book. You're a forum sycophant. It doesn't belong to you (unless under rare conditions in which it does, but that's another matter entirely).

Point is, everyone has their(not there or they're!) pet peeves, and others are going to continue with it, either deliberately or ignorantly. While I -do- think that people who communicate in indecipherable grammatical chaos deserve a swift lick in the shins, I tend to accept abbreviations or the simplest of leetspeek/aimspeek/etc. As long as I can understand it and it's not an outright assault on all that I know and love of the English language, it's fine with me.

To each his or her own. Can't complain because not everyone's gonna agree with you.

p33s 0ut y0.

[edited for late-nite mistakes.

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Chaynsaw · Jul 27, 2005, 10:57 AM // 10:57

Misspelling and netspeak occurs because it is economical. It is wearisome to type miles of text all the time... and sometimes it is simply not practial to spellcheck every passage you utter. Not all of us can type at 100 WPM, and to put on high airs because you can is bothersome to me.

Jczech · Jul 27, 2005, 10:58 AM // 10:58

I dislike it myself. Really, it isn't so hard to learn how to spell your first language (to those who know English as a second or third language, they speak / write it better than most of those who have it as their first language). I know, those big words like 'you' really take a long time to type and are hard to remember, but a few minutes of continued use should plant it firmly into most minds. I can understand abbreviating things that would take too long to type for their desired effect (most people could have probably done whatever they needed to do by the time they manage to type 'Be right back'), but butchering short words in order to cut off 1-3 letters and save yourself maybe a tenth of a second only makes people think less of you (namely me). I can understand typos, but please, be kind to your language. There's a reason 'you' is spelled 'you' and not 'u'. One of my favourite quotes on this topic goes something like "Spelling and grammar are to the internet what personal hygiene is to real life." When I see things like 'u suk' or 'your a noob', I only picture the person as some dirty (as in covered in dirt or whatever, not sexually perverted) 12 year-old, then try to figure out where i got my 'noob' from. But the whole your / you're is beyond most and is best saved for another rant.

On occasion I'll (mockingly) type something in all caps and misspell every word, but I save that for when I'm mocking someone.

Secondly, I'd like to know the definition for 'fagnuts'. Also, if you have more than one 'fagnuts', is the plural form 'fagnutses', or does it stay as 'fagnuts'? Just curious

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Originally Posted by Sekkira

I'll just say, if that day comes within my lifetime, who is going to join me in eradicating the human race?

You can count me in!

Sekkira · Jul 27, 2005, 11:41 AM // 11:41

Actually, I'd like to know where these people get this from. Surely schools teach you how to write with proper grammer, spelling and punctuation. What happens to these people when they log on? Does their entire education that has been engraved into the minds just disappear? How? What causes this? Why would someone throw away years of learning that is second nature on how to spell and such for this?

It frustrates me, it pisses me off. I hate stupid, idiotic people and sometimes they're lucky I'm not around them with something that can be used as a weapon.

Dr Morbius · Jul 27, 2005, 11:50 AM // 11:50

Remember, those who excessively use terms such as noob are actually just prenoobescent... so cut 'em some slack!

Celes Tial · Jul 27, 2005, 11:53 AM // 11:53

Netspeak is banned in my guild, I turn local chat off, and I dont group with randoms anymore.

Problem solved.

Anarkii · Jul 27, 2005, 11:55 AM // 11:55

I use abbreviations like "u,ur,wtf" a lot, while chatting . I do not use them in formal writing. Regarding the source of these...these were imbibed into me though the use of smses. I had been using proper, correct english while chatting before that(6-7 years back). But as I started smsing more and more, the need of shortcuts arose.

Even with the T9 composer, "I'll see you later" takes a lot more time than "cu l8r". And when I am confident that the recipient understands my intent, I go ahead.
I reiterate that using these in informal chats is ok for me, but not in formal written texts.

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Oh btw, I do despise terms like nub/n00b,pwned,owned,l33t,ub3r..

Bragg Madaxe · Jul 27, 2005, 11:55 AM // 11:55

No, can't say that I am really.

Bragg
LyzrdStomp

Sekkira · Jul 27, 2005, 11:57 AM // 11:57

I have to have proper grammer and spelling even when smsing people @_@

Bragg Madaxe · Jul 27, 2005, 12:00 PM // 12:00

Actually, I'd love to see a whole language develop from the acronyms and abbrevs we use in netspeak.

Bragg
LyzrdStomp

TopGun · Jul 27, 2005, 12:03 PM // 12:03

Is there any way to block certain words from appearing in chat? For me, curses and the like wouldn't be in the filter, but words like "omg; nub; noob; n00b; omfg; wtf; stfu; lol; lmao; lmfao; pwnt; owned; pawned; ownt; etc."

Possible?

PieXags · Jul 27, 2005, 12:04 PM // 12:04

Yeah it really does piss me off a bit, I use "lol" once in a while, but that's practically a word in it's own. And "haha" doesn't always fit the mood like I need it to. Other than that...yeah, I know what you mean. I get pretty pissed honestly when I'm talking to someone who makes every sort of typing error you can make, whether intentionally to "save time" or because of simple lack of...decent typing/writing skills at all. I hate it when I'm talking to someone and they can't even talk out, "Hold on a minute." They have to type "brb" or "c u l8r"...

Lets put it this way, if I'm talking to you, I'm taking my time to carry on the conversation with you, but when you feel the need to blow me off and you don't even think I'm worth a little "Be right back" instead of "brb", well you just don't message me, lets put it that way. It's an insult really, when I talk to someone it's for a reason, and I sure as hell don't want to have to read people's time saving short cuts, that are often times harder to read than anything.

And you know, maybe if they'd take the time to type, or even spell correctly (or to the best of their ability), maybe they wouldn't HAVE to "save time" shortening every other word. I'd bet money I can type faster typing normal (like...I always do) than most anyone I speak to using "netspeak" in some form or another, because...lets see, I've practiced, and have been doing it since I started using computers enthusiastically, and now just look at me! It's second nature.

Silly...netspeak using...tards. If my time isn't worth complete words to you then don't message me, that's how I work when talking to people.

Numa Pompilius · Jul 27, 2005, 12:14 PM // 12:14

On the other hand netspeek is good for one thing: as a grief-filter. I'd never accept someone who spammed "lfg m+ bnous NO N00BS!!!1!" into my team. Again it's my prejudices, but I can't imagine someone like that being a good team player up for a fun mission.

Aniewiel · Jul 27, 2005, 12:44 PM // 12:44

Every time I see "pwned" I think of pAwned and I wonder why they're selling themselves for cash.

The Pain Killa · Jul 27, 2005, 12:49 PM // 12:49

My clan runs, amongst other things, several Counterstrike servers and we use a leetspeek filter on these. Using the word noob or similar will generally get you summarily slapped around a map for a couple of minutes and/or booted.

I find it tends to keep the 1337 kiddies from coming back too fast